IM1 Week 9 Lecture
Q1. Will Luers states that in K-Films “the narration of the database is through the interface; its design, entry points, absences, spatial complexity and simultaneity”. Is technology leading us towards a purely graphical/symbol based method of storytelling that is independent from language?
- If you say narrative and the written word is above everything else – you’re losing a lot of your world
- Language never ruled the roost of storytelling
- Books are a recent technological form
- Novels have a short historical presence – 350 years
- Stories have been told for 40-50 thousand of years – other ways of telling stories
- Lots of modes of storytellings that are independent of storytelling C
- Cinema studies wants to teach you that cinema has a mode of grammar = adrian
- Language is grammatical, image making is not
- The assumptions behind this question = language = the spoken word.. language rules the world, but does it really?
Q2 Is Korsakow purely a place for artistic expression, or is there any potential for it to be used commercially?
- Don’t see why you couldn’t use it commercially
- More suited to poetic documentarie works – do lots of different things – don’t see why you couldn’t
- Three answers
- First answer: do work using korsakow and charge people for it – if it meets what the brief says, then it works
- Second answer: whether or not it used korsakow or not, in an ideal scenario it teaches you a way to think about context in a way you can use it in other contents… other developments – “wouldn’t it be good if it could do this, do that…”
- Third answer: stop thinking you make money from selling widgets – that economy is dead. notion: i can’t make money from k – what would i sell?
- The skill you have to sell is your expertise and knowledge
- K want to sell the software – at one hundred dollars, k is going to have to meet a lot of “I wants” from customers
- What you have to sell and what they have to sell is their expertise around using the software
- You are selling your expertise and experience that is not the widget!
- Selling a ‘thing’ is not what’s important anymore. selling experiences is. I.E. The Age – experiences. MKR – building/selling experiences
- Recognise you’re developing a skill set that is marketable and can make you money
Q3. Is it a possibility that Korsakow will allow an ‘embed’ function that links to other media? What might this mean for K-Films?
- K films are currently closed systems – this questioning is talking about opening it up to the network
- It would mean rather than being a fixed content, they’re open and using participatory content
- Connection to network
- Would change patterns and associations within the work – depending on where those links lead
- Would it stay within the k film, or keep branching out through the world wide web
- Would change the nature of the films completely
- If other programs are already doing this, k is staying within it’s own area, showing different types of films we can make
- Popcorn has a timeline – as soon as you have a timeline you’re back in traditional media land
- It would make it a very different object
- The heart of k films is that each clip has two faces, one looking out and one looking in. adding extrapolated clips adds more complexity
- There is no such this as permanent on the web – if you embed a clip, it might not always be there on youtube
- You would have to put them all on the same face
- You have no control over what you would be making – URL’s break, etc.
- Media outside will break and disappear
- Professional practice – you can’t guarantee anything = bad
Q4 Do lists actually create infinite possibilities?
- Jasmine = initial response is yes because we’re not working within a restricted possibility structure
- Two ways to think about answering it
- Pragmatic lists supermarket – short but can be long – potentially infinite
- Take it out of pragmatic – other notions of listing – lists have two faces – one is internal – what are the relations – they can be infinite
- The second way – when you start making a lists they are infinite – when you come up with an end it is pragmatic.
- There is no end to the list once you start
- Which is why it is offered as a counter to narrative, because narrative as we understand it has an end – why soap opera is interesting, it keeps going
- Once you do a list, the relations between the lists can start to dance
- Where as in writing narrative you need to dictate what those relations are
- They are infinite
Q5 If a Korsakow film is structured like a mosaic, do all clips need to be linked in some way to allow for understanding?
- Their doesn’t have to be a relationship between every single part, but when you take too much out, the connections can be heavily affected
- Do all clips need to be equally connected – it’s context dependant
- What comes before sets up the context for comes next
- You can only have them all linking evenly if the context around them allowed for that to happen