RWAV In Retrospect

So, the time has finally come where I can look back on Room With A View in its entirety and reflect. The semester has flown by and yet it feels like so long ago that we were first sitting in the studio at RRR and hearing about how the semester would work.

Honestly, I find reflecting on such a big subject and time difficult. I don’t necessarily know how I’ve grown, I think this will become apparent when I start my next project and I notice some improvement in my skills and in the final outcome. If I break it down into assessments so I can think about each individual project and what it taught me:

First RWAV show: 

I think our first show went really well. As I detailed at the time, I found my role as producer to be lacking in any clear-cut definition and without many tangible tasks. This was just due to the nature of the show and the fact that so much of the work a “real-world” producer typically does was done by my other group members. But anyway. I think our first show was a few levels up from our second show. I think Dusty and Sammy spoke well as presenters, however, I think there might have been too much of a difference between their voices. It’s a fine line between having great audio texture (if that’s not a thing, it is now) and distinguishable voices and having voices that are slightly jarring in their differences. Not sure which side of the line they stood, but it was close either way. Nothing they can help, obviously. Rose was super prepared as panel operator and I found it cool how she had said at the beginning of the subject that she would prefer not to do the panel because she thought she’d muck it up, and then she totally smashed it!

I’m still not sure of how I can reflect on this show as an individual. I think I gained more vicarious experience than I did hands-on.

Individual interview: 

This was fun and good practice but as I know from my feedback, and as I had predicted, overall it really wasn’t that interesting. Leah (interviewee) was quite nervous but more to the point didn’t have that much new information to share and didn’t really have a fresh enough take on the topic of the housing market to warrant a whole interview.

Leah wasn’t the first person I contacted, I had initially reached out to someone who works for the Eastern Alliance for Greenhouse Action, a big long name for an organization that represents/is a mix of people and representatives from the eastern councils in Melbourne, that focuses on community and local government sustainability. This is more niche and a fresher topic, but the potential interviewee was overseas right up until the due date. I think this would have been a better interview.

However, I don’t regret interviewing Leah. The downfalls weren’t with her as an interviewee. It was a mix of factors, including that she didn’t have a fresh take on it but also the questions I asked her and the way I edited it. Also, I stand by my point that it isn’t right to tell someone something will be aired on radio and then not air it. I understand it happens in the media and in real life but I didn’t feel comfortable doing that, especially if they were a full-time worker and would be taking valuable time out of their day under the potentially false premise that the interview would be on the radio.

Anyway, with the content I had, I think/believe I did a technically good job at editing. I maybe could have made some different choices to make the interview more interesting but I still like how it came together. I also had fun working on Auditon again.

Feature: 

I am really happy with how our feature turned out. It was pretty easy to think of the idea and find people to interview, but more time consuming to think of the right and appropriate questions to ask them. Dusty especially worked really hard on this and thought of an unimaginably large plethora of questions for each interviewee. I have to say I didn’t focus on the feature very much at the beginning and didn’t do nearly as much work in the planning of it as Sammy and Dusty did because I was focusing on (and stressing about) our second show which came at a similar time to the feature. During this time when I wasn’t helping out as much I relied on the fact that I could/would do a lot more of the editing work, which I did.

Dusty and Sammy did most of the interviews- they both spoke to Ben Byrne (RMIT Academic), Dusty spoke to Robbie Nicols from White Man Behind a Desk, and Sammy spoke to Beth from Beth Blvd. Rose and I interviewed Andrew Mills from the YouTube miniseries Leftovers. I have been an avid watcher of this YouTube channel for a long time so it was awesome to speak to him about all the work that goes into it etc. We found that he was quite a bit shyer than some of our other interviewees and so it took him a while to warm up, but that wasn’t a big problem.

After we had all the content, then came the task of editing, which we started 4 or so days after our last interview. I put a lot of time and work into editing it and to take 2+ hours of content with 4 different interviewees and to get it under 15 minutes with a clear progression is difficult. I didn’t really think about how difficult it would be to gain some kind of concise and clear flow to the piece. Obviously, you plan to a degree before the interviews but theres only so much you can do, as you need all of them to be able to work out what will sound best where, and what won’t be included.

JJ and I spent three long days in the edit suites in building 9 finding the storyline for our piece and making it pleasing to the ears. Dusty and Sammy came in a lot too, but they were both mroe pre-occupied with other study and uni requirements than JJ and I were, and they had done all of the preproduction work anyway.

On the first day, we went through all the interviews, cut out anything that wasn’t relevant or said well, then went through and sorted it into different categories/questions so we could more easily map out the progression. At the end of the day, we’d been through all our content but didn’t have it in any order or anything which I found quite stressful. We started a ‘run-sheet’ or plan of the piece, but I found that really difficult and quite pointless. I thought it would be best just to play around with the clips in audition and from that see what works where.

So on the next day, JJ and I came in and we were soon joined by Sammy, and then later Dusty too. Sammy did a great job of organizing the clips and actually just getting rid of a lot of them too. This was something I was finding difficult, as there was so much that was so relevant and interesting! But there’s only so much you can keep, and Sammy laid a really good foundation on which we could move little clips around and keep adjusting to improve the whole piece.

That’s what we spent the rest of the time- a day and a half- doing. Continuously cutting clips down when the interviewee was repeating themselves, taking out pauses, ums and errrs, adjusting the volume, moving clips around, cutting them up, re-arranging them again and so on. It was an incredibly arduous process and I found the ability to make a quick decision to be a life-saver (and not always an ability I have). On the last day, I did a lot of the editing while JJ worked on her blog and other pressing things (but was there for help and second opinions). I had to leave mid-to-late afternoon, before the feature was finished. I gave her some quick instructions/advice to finish it off and thought we’d be good to wrap it up there. I think however there must have been a miscommunication or something of the like because when she uploaded it later there were more issues than earlier on in the day. I feel very grateful but also very bad for JJ, she spent over 12 hours in the basement and ended up uploading the piece over 6 times to google drive for Dusty to listen to (the rest of us were busy) before getting more advice or changes to make. This is not their fault at all but would have been a lot more cohesive if there were still a few of us in the studio.

Anyway, I was back in the city at 7.30 (I had left at 4) and poor JJ was still in the suites so I went out and helped her. We spent another 2 hours on it again, until it was at a point we were happy with. I hadn’t realised how much more there was to do earlier. However, it is a good thing I had to listen back to it so many times as it became clearer as to what needed changing/fixing/deleting. It was also frustrating as a few little things took our time, like finding the right music and adjusting the volume of each clip to be the same (tried to get Audition to do it for me but it didn’t work). Anyway, again I left before JJ as needed to get up very early. She just had to upload it to SoundCloud but still, I’m very appreciative of all the work and time she put into it. I’m really happy with how it turned out and for the most part, think we worked really well together as a group.

 

In terms of the subject as a whole, I enjoyed it (mostly). There were peaks and troughs- troughs at high moments of stress (before second show, editing feature) and peaks when we worked really well as a group together (first live show, finishing the feature and everyone loving it). I think our semester was difficult at times because our assessments weren’t evenly spread, because we went first for the live show, then had a massive break before our feature/second live show, which was a time I felt incredibly stressed. But I had a great time too. It was a special experience to be working with the same group for the entire semester, something I haven’t done yet as this was my first studio. I was blessed with a motivated, smart and reliable group who I really enjoyed working with. I think I enjoyed working on the feature more than the radio shows, as there wasn’t as much external pressure for it to fit into RRR’s guidelines etc, but nonetheless, both experiences were awesome and it was really special to be able to go on the radio (and pick all the songs!)

Overall, RWAV was quite challenging at times, but rather enjoyable and an invaluable experience.

Live show 2

Yesterday, Monday 22nd of April, we had our second live show. Rose and I presented while JJ panel operated. I came into the studio in the morning feeling relatively calm- it was just going to be 1 hour of radio out of 24 in a day, and 168 in a week, that Triple R would broadcast. I also felt that while we had prepared less than our group had for the first show, we were still well rehearsed. It is really amazing how much calmer I felt after 3 or so hours of practice with Rose and JJ in the week before the show. Anyway, I felt okay. We went through the run sheet before the show, played through some of the songs etc.

When it came to 12 o’clock, my nerves were definitely peaking! Really though, I had not much reason to be nervous. The only difference between our practices and the real thing was that it would matter more if I made a mistake, but I knew that it was unlikely I would do that. I quickly felt comfortable speaking into the microphone and knowing it was going out to REAL people, not just back into our own ears never to be heard again. I think this was also because of how little time Rose and I were actually speaking; between songs, pre-recorded interviews, sponsorships and the like, Rose and I really only announced things and had the one live interview. I also think there was a good dynamic between the two of us. I’m sure at times it sounded rehearsed/scripted (because it was), but a lot of the time we added our own thoughts in the moments and said things that made it more impromptu and natural. I am glad we had everything written (even though I think I could do it just fine with dot points) because it calms me knowing there is something to say if my mind blanks! Overall, I felt comfortable and confident in front of the microphone.

I think the live interview went really well. Beth was a great interviewee, giving plentiful answers but not to the extent of rambling. I found it really easy to engage with her, and even though we had questions listed, they came up when relevant rather than in a pre-disposed order. I found thinking of the next question somewhat difficult at times because I wanted to listen to what she was saying, but I didn’t want it to be my turn to speak and for me to have nothing to ask. It was tricky to juggle the act of engaging in ‘conversation’ while worrying about what was coming next, but overall I really think we handled it well.

In terms of the pre-recorded interviews, there is definitely some things I would have changed retrospectively. We shouldn’t really have included the HoMie interview. While the content was interesting and relevant, unfortunately, the editing and final composition weren’t up to scratch. Elizabeth mentioned this in her feedback to us, saying it wasn’t of a professional standard. I had an inkling this would be the case when I first listened to the interview, but Sam said it would be broadcast quality (maybe after taking pity on my stress about the show). Looking back we should have organised a second live interview, also because it would have given Rose and myself more of a chance to gain skills in live interviewing and presenting. I don’t want to seem like I’m making excuses- but we did go with the HoMie interview because we (myself in particular) were getting rather stressed in the lead up to the show (with the feature needing to be produced simultaneously, two of the girls having pretty extreme, uncontrollable personal circumstances and the end of semester and all the work it brings, fast approaching), and decided having two pre-recorded interviews over two live interviews would be a lot easier. Which it was, but I should have challenged myself more.

I really like Dusty’s interview with James of Lemon Ceramics. Elizabeth gave us some criticism that we mentioned ‘brand’ too much when introducing the interview, which I hadn’t realised we focused on but accept the feedback and understand it in relation to RRR’s community standing. She also brought up the question of “Why James over some other ceramicist?”, implying that he didn’t have anything particularly noteworthy to say. Again, I accept this feedback but as a listener (and I didn’t have any part in producing the interview- I really was a listener) I found the interview to be interesting and relaxed. To quote my friend who listened to the show, “the interview with the ceramic dude was cool, he seemed super chill and nice”. I understand the interview wasn’t anything groundbreaking, and maybe it didn’t deserve to be aired in the middle of the day, but I thought it was a fun piece that ended our show on a light note. I also think Dusty asked some great questions and facilitated an engaging interview, so props to her.

After the ceramics interview was our slight techincal/human glitch, which was a pity because we were on such a good run and the show was due to end perfectly on time. Basically, JJ (who up to this point and after did an awesome job at the panel) accidentally switched the song half way through, when she meant to use the switcher dial on the other CD player. So, Home Again by Micheal Kiwanuka ended half way through. When it happened, JJ just looked at us very panicked. I didn’t realise what was happening for a moment, but then she put our mics on and Rose and I (somewhat flustered) tried to recover. Personally, I think we did a great job. So what if we make a mistake? We were honest and said there was an issue, and that we’d be going to another song. I got very worried when announcing the next song because I wasn’t sure of the issue and thought that maybe no song would play and that I would announce a song only to hear dead air and no song being played. Luckily, a song did play. Unfortunately, it was not the song I had spent a long-winded minute (trying to fill time) announcing. Fortunately, Sammy and Dusty came in, Sammy used Shazam (thank you modern technology) to find what the song was (it was one Rose had put on the CD in case we needed more songs (thank you Rose), it was just in the wrong order) and we just played the actual song I announced (Air’s track, All I Need) after the wrong song. And then back announced them like nothing had ever happened. Problem solved!

Then we were finally back on the scripted content (knew it would come in handy!) and we wrapped up the show nicely and went just slightly over time into Zero G’s slot (apologised dearly to them).

So, overall, I think it went well. And I had a fun time! I was inadvertently reminded that challenging yourself can be a good thing and that it is how you learn. We made mistakes but I see them as opportunities to learn and grow- this was the first(ish) time for us on radio, on a REAL radio station, and I think we did fairly well for the circumstances!

I would definitely like to explore producing and presenting radio in the future. And while 3RRR is a great avenue to do this, and one that may be open for people in our class going forward, I will probably lean towards getting involved in SYN first, as this is for young people and will probably be less pressure than working for RRR and creating content for such a widely listened to station. I am super thankful for the opportunity I have had though, and am so glad I picked (and got into) this studio this semester.

Myself, Beth and Rose!