Jake discusses the Rascaroli, though perhaps confuses more traditional and possibly didactic documentary with the essay film. Rather than the PBS movie channel try this sequence from the end of Chris Marker’s Sans Soleil. Also remember the reading from network media on the essay, as not the form we have been trained to write but the thing that is an engagement with thinking itself.
Mardy on nonfiction, documentary, and Korsakow pattern making.
Zoe on Matt Soar’s chapter, and software as a service. Shannen on how the small and everyday can now be examined, and that not only documentary but all the services we have (twitter, instagram, and so on) make this possible. I agree. We are on the cusp of an extraordinary age of media making and sharing.
Zoe with notes on the Ryan and Bogost. Yes, we have been making lists in our sketch tasks, well spotted/realised.. Mardy enjoys Bogost’s discussion of the role of lists in relation to language more broadly. Natalie picks up that K-films could be non narrative works and offers a great outline of Bogost and lists. Jackie too has brief notes on Ryan and Bogost, while Sam wonders about listing as a form of hypertext connection, and while I’m not sure about that the connection to montage (though only some forms of montage) is accurate. Bec has thorough notes
Mardy on hammer’s ingredients of f%%$$# Hollywood. Bec’s notes, though still confused about narrative (not everything is a story, not everything that has cause and effect is a story, but if you don’t have cause and effect, you don’t have a story). Carl, with notes on intent and senders and receivers and a grab from The Whale Hunt. Torika with notes, the flirting comment made sense apparently.
Not symposium, but Ella appreciates Tiana’s observation that Korsakow is a system for trying new ways to use video. (yep.)
Sharona single points for the questions discussed. Kylie with brief notes. Tiana on stories, closure, telling it well, and more hammers. Edward on hammers, cause and effect, us as centres, while Imogen also notes the subjective voice and the importance of the engagement with an audience as who is explicitly addressed by the essay film.
Tom with notes from the reading on the essay film, and worries about argument, objectivity and right and wrong. Kylie discusses K-films in the context of the essay film, tis a good post. Bec with useful thumbnail notes. Brenton has brief notes, while Sam who picks up the importance of authorial voice and subjectivity in essay films.
Ella took away Jasmine’s outstanding comment about seeing with alien eyes. It really was a great observation, memory, and idea. Mardy has notes, as does Bec, Sharona. Carl has dot points that do a good job of listing the salient points. Torika worries about art, and, well, why. Good worries to have, but right now I think it’s worth learning how, then doing, and then thinking why. Worrying about the why before you learn to do something risks deciding before knowing. Brenton has a good summary of form and how documentary addresses the world.
Ali on Kafka, The Trial, and lists. We might also add that Kafka, famously, did not finish novels, most of the works remain just that. Partial. In many ways a great exemplar for the sorts of ideas we want to explore as they are less stories than ways to investigate an idea. Gina notes a class debate on lists, narrative, cause and effect. Tom on Bogost and not connecting through language. Nadine with key points about lists. Accumulation, indefinite relations, disconnection, staccato. And that list is a good description of how to make a Korsakow film.
Ali wondering more about lists.
Edward has good notes about the ‘my life is a narrative’ thread. Koston has good things too. No idea where this up after last week’s discussion of hammers, cause and effect, and stories are machines to narrate stories so if that’s the machine you use, then everything will look like a story. It’s a good post. It is trivial to narrate things after they have happened, but if my life is a story, (and a story is a thing narrated, that has cause and effect understandable within the story world, with sentient agents), could someone let me know how it ends please? The point is that as it is happening it is not a story, but after it’s happened, it is simple to make it a story. They are two different things.